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Model Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 112
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:58 am Post subject: (No subject) |
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sry Arty but if i'd play with a rog i wouldn't use it;/
for rog mana is much more important than life and it doesn't have any interesting bonuses. Cat's wind wins:( _________________ www.purepwnage.com |
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tan_Gonarro=BH= Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 79
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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Actually, faster/fastest attack speed on bows is technically possible to do - it was implemented in VK MiddleEarth mod in form of build-in ability for some base items. But... there is a serious balance issue involved here as well. People who played ME already will know what I am talking about, but for the rest of you let me explain. You see - haste on bow means rogue will fire arrows at the rate of machine gun... Even with low base damage she would have highest DPS in game, not mentioning the stun/stopping ability wich is way beyond the possibilites of othe classes. Now giving her all the damage boosting equpment avaliable in ReX would make her an unstoppable killing machine both in pvp and pvm. I already saw what can be done with hasted bow and less than 100 damage, now imagine what would it look like witch 300... pure overkill madness.
To make it work, the whole item system in ReX would have to be totally re-balanced. I dont think its even worth the effort... |
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Model Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 112
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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I thought of hasted bow for war (like in Dragon Killer). Rog with fast attack fires verrryy fast, it would be a chain gun not a bow:). Fastest attack only on bow with 255str req and 150vit;p, so no rog could use it. _________________ www.purepwnage.com |
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Model Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 112
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:22 am Post subject: (No subject) |
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Such item would be useless. Wizard casts spells, he won't cope close combat. The same situation if i try to fight the monsters with fb and teleport only;p. No one will use it and it will only take precious space.
Think of a bow for mage, but not 150dmg,%dmg and cth because every rouge will try to use it and the effects will be catastrophic for other classes _________________ www.purepwnage.com |
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Arty~ Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 156 Location: *Canada* T-dOt
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:25 am Post subject: (No subject) |
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lol yeah youve got a point and i added some changes to the bow i listined to wht you said and i think this version of the bow is better. and im not exacly trying to make it the best bow in game just rly close to cats wind like 3rd best or 2nd |
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Model Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 112
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:32 am Post subject: (No subject) |
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Except for me, start to read tan_Gonarro. Fastest attack on bow, NO WAY. Not on such bow. If it was for war only (255str,200vit) or mage ok, but not for rogue.
I want a monk as a class _________________ www.purepwnage.com |
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Arty~ Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 156 Location: *Canada* T-dOt
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:10 am Post subject: (No subject) |
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k fine let it hav 4 affixes but like i said im not trying to hav the best bow in the game just a bow someone will use like i would not because its my bow.. |
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Arty~ Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 156 Location: *Canada* T-dOt
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: (No subject) |
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Model wrote: | I want a monk as a class |
yes but wht will the mage enchanter turn you into, a goat? |
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perfectstranger Disciple
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 8
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:46 am Post subject: (No subject) |
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o.O living and learning
Normal atack speed for my V&K ME rogue LVL 28 using a mundane LWB
Fast atack Speed for the same rogue wearing a ring that grants it and mundane LWB
Faster atack speed for the same rogue using a mundane crossbow (built in faster atack speed)
Big diff from fast to faster o.O
Didnt test as a warrior cuz V&K itens reqs are screwy and if im not wrong ReB comes from Netherworld and in nether warrs have a bonus for their atack speed w/ bows.
ps: i used dclicker setted up for 50 miliseconds
ps2: sry for u 56kers |
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tan_Gonarro=BH= Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 79
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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the last picture shows faster attack speed only. to see the real fastest attack you had to use heavy crossbow base item, but those drop only in hell difficulty. Youll be most impressed to see what one of those babes can do... |
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Model Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 112
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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Artry why do mage has to have an advantage?
Warrior- black knight
rogue- succubus (or goat with bow;p)
mage- Advocate
and monk as a class;s and it would be a VERY nice change, which will force ppl to learn a new way of dueling vs a new class. But monk need's some technical changes because without weapon i have got 150dmg with bare hands and with mace i got 70-80;p. Rise stats a bit etc. But this later _________________ www.purepwnage.com |
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Endurio Forum Moderator
Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 136
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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Yeah, maybe this new update is just what is needed. |
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Model Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 112
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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I'd use more classic graphics: chain mail, scale male(!), crown, great helm(!), broad sword(!), great sword,mace, two-handed sword(!), field plate/gothic plate and some interesting graphics from diabdat and Hellfire. And cut bows (too many base bows). But i posted it earlier.
If new version will contain all this changes we posted here i'd be VERY pleased:)
Edit:
http://www.planetdiablo.com/hellfire/items/oils/
it would be interesting to add this oils but a cap is needed, so ppl won't have 121931999999dmg, 2111111111111ac and 19909988999999 cth;p
here is the full list of "lost" item graphics to use:
http://www.ladyofthecake.com/diablo/missitem.htm
personally i like this one near Azurwrath and Flambeu from HF
and this one is even more complete i think (about 4-5 graphics more):
http://www.diablo1.pl/bloodface.jpg
and as some one posted earlier (blood stones) on the bottom of the page:
http://www.planetdiablo.com/diablo/items/misc/ _________________ www.purepwnage.com |
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Pollus Emanuel Zhudarak Disciple
Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: ENCHANTERS.... |
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LABIRI, this itens are very hard to find, and when we find only one, we see that are very sux itens because needs one suxs comb only to use them...
The Brasilian players are asking to u get down the req of them, to use that with any comb... or with good itens to duel... |
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Model Dungeon Explorer
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 112
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: (No subject) |
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I was thinking of a new prefix to dmg:
the max %damage is arcane and it is 175%, and on destynis it's 180-210 (i think it should be 176% 'cause king's ends at 175) and in my opinion there should be some prefix with %dmg more than 210, so a melee rougue can use it or for a warr.
For example 211-250 %dmg
and one more item:
The Templar: (maybe Scale Mail graph and middle armor)
ac:170-190
increase magic find (it is said that Templars got VERY big treasure hidden)
light radius +40%
5-10(15) all attb
maybe add sth small (mana or faster hit recovery or sth like that, i'll think more)
20-30% all res
so a warr can find sth nice on 16lvl:) _________________ www.purepwnage.com
Last edited by Model on Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:27 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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